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		By: Stephen I. Ternyik		</title>
		<link>https://capital2016.weaconferences.net/papers/the-other-half-of-macroeconomics-and-three-stages-of-economic-development/#comment-56</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen I. Ternyik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2016 06:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This article on the cyclicity of economic development, opportunities of anti-cyclical inverstment and `limited visibility of the whole cake` contains a lot of wisdom and macro-prudence, especially for European policy-makers (repetition ! of economic history). The direct relationship between liberal arts education (`viewing the whole cake`), innovators/entrepreneurs (`new opportunity creators&#039;) and the tax environment (`reducing opportunity cost`) is very well explained. Concerning the private/public debt interplay, the least bad solution (peaceful status quo, with a lot of `medical patience`and balance sheet state-market-planning) is offered. In any case, this is a wise feedback from empirical practice, advising non-violent `strategic economic survival` .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article on the cyclicity of economic development, opportunities of anti-cyclical inverstment and `limited visibility of the whole cake` contains a lot of wisdom and macro-prudence, especially for European policy-makers (repetition ! of economic history). The direct relationship between liberal arts education (`viewing the whole cake`), innovators/entrepreneurs (`new opportunity creators&#8217;) and the tax environment (`reducing opportunity cost`) is very well explained. Concerning the private/public debt interplay, the least bad solution (peaceful status quo, with a lot of `medical patience`and balance sheet state-market-planning) is offered. In any case, this is a wise feedback from empirical practice, advising non-violent `strategic economic survival` .</p>
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		By: Arturo Hermann		</title>
		<link>https://capital2016.weaconferences.net/papers/the-other-half-of-macroeconomics-and-three-stages-of-economic-development/#comment-28</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arturo Hermann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2016 14:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I found your analysis very interesting. I am not so sure that there is a lack of borrowers: this can be true for new ventures, but, for ordinary business, credit creation is essential in order to postpone payments and get money sooner from consumers. Also public debt is unlikely to be repaid. In this sense, much of the debt in circulation (tables 1-2) will not be repaid but consolidated over longer periods or sold to central banks within Quantitative easing programs (in effect, by this means fresh money is injected &quot;ex-nihilo&quot; in the system).
Another related issue is the financialization of the firms and also of households. This has negative effects, as we know, but this is also due, in a vicious circle, to a structural lack of effective demand that makes it easier and more promising to invest in financial assets.

        Table 1

Debt of General Government
as a Percentage of GDP

Nations	Year 2012
Australia	56,3
Austria	85,2
Belgium	106,4
Canada	109,7
Chile	18,7
Czech Republic	55,7
Denmark	59,3
Estonia	13,2
Finland	64,5
France	109,3
Germany	88,5
Greece	164,2
Hungary	89,6
Iceland	Na
Ireland	125,7
Israel	80,0
Italy	141,7
Japan	235,8
Korea	37,5
Luxembourg	30,1
Mexico	Na
Netherlands	82,7
Norway	34,7
Poland	62,3
Portugal	127,8
Slovak Republic	56,8
Slovenia	61,4
Spain	92,8
Sweden	48,8
Switzerland	46,1 
(2011)
Turkey	46,3
United Kingdom	101,5
United States	123,0

Source: Based on data from &quot;Financial Indicators – Stocks&quot; http://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DataSetCode=FIN_IND_FBS 
in OECD.StatExtracts http://stats.oecd.org/


Table 2

Private Sector Debt
as a Percentage of GDP

Nations	Year 2011
Australia	184,4
Austria	179,5
Belgium	251,8
Canada	233,7
Chile	166,4
Czech Republic	147,0
Denmark	261,1
Estonia	166,6
Finland	207,4
France	221,9
Germany	159,5
Greece	142,7
Hungary	219,5
Iceland	Na
Ireland	411,6
Israel	132,0
Italy	188,5
Japan	243,0
Korea	251,3
Luxembourg	451,5
Mexico	Na
Netherlands	252,2
Norway	254,8
Poland	119,6
Portugal	331,0
Slovak Republic	113,9
Slovenia	176,4
Spain	279,8
Sweden	295,2
Switzerland	221,4
Turkey	Na
United Kingdom	204,2
United States	198,7

Source: Based on data from &quot;Financial Indicators – Stocks&quot; http://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DataSetCode=FIN_IND_FBS 
in OECD.StatExtracts http://stats.oecd.org/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found your analysis very interesting. I am not so sure that there is a lack of borrowers: this can be true for new ventures, but, for ordinary business, credit creation is essential in order to postpone payments and get money sooner from consumers. Also public debt is unlikely to be repaid. In this sense, much of the debt in circulation (tables 1-2) will not be repaid but consolidated over longer periods or sold to central banks within Quantitative easing programs (in effect, by this means fresh money is injected &#8220;ex-nihilo&#8221; in the system).<br />
Another related issue is the financialization of the firms and also of households. This has negative effects, as we know, but this is also due, in a vicious circle, to a structural lack of effective demand that makes it easier and more promising to invest in financial assets.</p>
<p>        Table 1</p>
<p>Debt of General Government<br />
as a Percentage of GDP</p>
<p>Nations	Year 2012<br />
Australia	56,3<br />
Austria	85,2<br />
Belgium	106,4<br />
Canada	109,7<br />
Chile	18,7<br />
Czech Republic	55,7<br />
Denmark	59,3<br />
Estonia	13,2<br />
Finland	64,5<br />
France	109,3<br />
Germany	88,5<br />
Greece	164,2<br />
Hungary	89,6<br />
Iceland	Na<br />
Ireland	125,7<br />
Israel	80,0<br />
Italy	141,7<br />
Japan	235,8<br />
Korea	37,5<br />
Luxembourg	30,1<br />
Mexico	Na<br />
Netherlands	82,7<br />
Norway	34,7<br />
Poland	62,3<br />
Portugal	127,8<br />
Slovak Republic	56,8<br />
Slovenia	61,4<br />
Spain	92,8<br />
Sweden	48,8<br />
Switzerland	46,1<br />
(2011)<br />
Turkey	46,3<br />
United Kingdom	101,5<br />
United States	123,0</p>
<p>Source: Based on data from &#8220;Financial Indicators – Stocks&#8221; <a href="http://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DataSetCode=FIN_IND_FBS" rel="nofollow ugc">http://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DataSetCode=FIN_IND_FBS</a><br />
in OECD.StatExtracts <a href="http://stats.oecd.org/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://stats.oecd.org/</a></p>
<p>Table 2</p>
<p>Private Sector Debt<br />
as a Percentage of GDP</p>
<p>Nations	Year 2011<br />
Australia	184,4<br />
Austria	179,5<br />
Belgium	251,8<br />
Canada	233,7<br />
Chile	166,4<br />
Czech Republic	147,0<br />
Denmark	261,1<br />
Estonia	166,6<br />
Finland	207,4<br />
France	221,9<br />
Germany	159,5<br />
Greece	142,7<br />
Hungary	219,5<br />
Iceland	Na<br />
Ireland	411,6<br />
Israel	132,0<br />
Italy	188,5<br />
Japan	243,0<br />
Korea	251,3<br />
Luxembourg	451,5<br />
Mexico	Na<br />
Netherlands	252,2<br />
Norway	254,8<br />
Poland	119,6<br />
Portugal	331,0<br />
Slovak Republic	113,9<br />
Slovenia	176,4<br />
Spain	279,8<br />
Sweden	295,2<br />
Switzerland	221,4<br />
Turkey	Na<br />
United Kingdom	204,2<br />
United States	198,7</p>
<p>Source: Based on data from &#8220;Financial Indicators – Stocks&#8221; <a href="http://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DataSetCode=FIN_IND_FBS" rel="nofollow ugc">http://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DataSetCode=FIN_IND_FBS</a><br />
in OECD.StatExtracts <a href="http://stats.oecd.org/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://stats.oecd.org/</a></p>
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		By: Raymond Aitken		</title>
		<link>https://capital2016.weaconferences.net/papers/the-other-half-of-macroeconomics-and-three-stages-of-economic-development/#comment-23</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raymond Aitken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2016 15:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://capital2016.weaconferences.net/papers/the-other-half-of-macroeconomics-and-three-stages-of-economic-development/#comment-6&quot;&gt;Marco Saba&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for these very revealing references. Here is another which might be of interest: Moini, Mostafa (2001) Toward a General Theory of Credit and Money - https://is.muni.cz/el/1456/podzim2007/PETMI/Moini__2001_.pdf]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://capital2016.weaconferences.net/papers/the-other-half-of-macroeconomics-and-three-stages-of-economic-development/#comment-6">Marco Saba</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for these very revealing references. Here is another which might be of interest: Moini, Mostafa (2001) Toward a General Theory of Credit and Money &#8211; <a href="https://is.muni.cz/el/1456/podzim2007/PETMI/Moini__2001_.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">https://is.muni.cz/el/1456/podzim2007/PETMI/Moini__2001_.pdf</a></p>
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		By: David Harold Chester		</title>
		<link>https://capital2016.weaconferences.net/papers/the-other-half-of-macroeconomics-and-three-stages-of-economic-development/#comment-10</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Harold Chester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2016 09:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The proper way to examine the macroeconomics or the social system of a country is to cover all the possible ways by which money is exchanged for goods, services, access rights, tax payments, valuable legal documents etc. When the balance of the value of the goods etc., is made against quantity of money (both of which are flow rates), is formally stated for all of the different kinds of role-playing entities in the social system, then it does not need an &quot;Other Half&quot;, because that has already been included, as taught by Henry Hazlitt in &quot;Economics in One lesson&quot;. This raises the question as to how many different kinds of role-players there are and how many different kinds of transactions do they perform? The answers to these questions are remarkably small in numbers of kinds and a suitable model for connecting them has only 6 entities and 19 kinds of exchanges, see Wikimedia, Commons, Macroeconomics: DiagFuncMacroSyst.pdf]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The proper way to examine the macroeconomics or the social system of a country is to cover all the possible ways by which money is exchanged for goods, services, access rights, tax payments, valuable legal documents etc. When the balance of the value of the goods etc., is made against quantity of money (both of which are flow rates), is formally stated for all of the different kinds of role-playing entities in the social system, then it does not need an &#8220;Other Half&#8221;, because that has already been included, as taught by Henry Hazlitt in &#8220;Economics in One lesson&#8221;. This raises the question as to how many different kinds of role-players there are and how many different kinds of transactions do they perform? The answers to these questions are remarkably small in numbers of kinds and a suitable model for connecting them has only 6 entities and 19 kinds of exchanges, see Wikimedia, Commons, Macroeconomics: DiagFuncMacroSyst.pdf</p>
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		By: Marco Saba		</title>
		<link>https://capital2016.weaconferences.net/papers/the-other-half-of-macroeconomics-and-three-stages-of-economic-development/#comment-6</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marco Saba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2016 19:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think the author don&#039;t really know how banking work. There&#039;s no need for savers for a bank to lend out money. See here: Werner, R.A., A lost century in economics: Three theories of banking and the conclusive evidence, International Review of Financial Analysis (2015) http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1057521915001477

The crisis arise because bankers don&#039;t know how to account properly for money creation, here:
Cash Flow Accounting in Banks— A study of practice, Ásgeir B. Torfason, University of Gothenburg, 2014 
https://gupea.ub.gu.se/handle/2077/35272]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the author don&#8217;t really know how banking work. There&#8217;s no need for savers for a bank to lend out money. See here: Werner, R.A., A lost century in economics: Three theories of banking and the conclusive evidence, International Review of Financial Analysis (2015) <a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1057521915001477" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1057521915001477</a></p>
<p>The crisis arise because bankers don&#8217;t know how to account properly for money creation, here:<br />
Cash Flow Accounting in Banks— A study of practice, Ásgeir B. Torfason, University of Gothenburg, 2014<br />
<a href="https://gupea.ub.gu.se/handle/2077/35272" rel="nofollow ugc">https://gupea.ub.gu.se/handle/2077/35272</a></p>
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